Chat group: Everyone has a dream.

I must say right away that there is a lot of negativity and criticism towards Artoria Pendragon and Rias Gremory in this chapter. If someone gets offended, then... I warned you.

Several days have passed since Ciel met Siegmund. She developed rapidly, her level of knowledge and emotional development reached that of a teenager, around 16~17 years old. She was reasonable, considerate, polite and understanding. Roughly speaking, she was almost an ideal girl who really enjoyed spending time with Siegmund. She had already realized that their appearance did not match their relationship, Siegmund represented something between a caring older brother, a loving father and a guy she enjoyed spending time with.

Her level of development has stopped abruptly, although this would not be a correct definition, since further development of the personality occurs through interaction with the outside world, as well as overcoming difficulties.

Much to Ciel's regret , she cannot spend all her time with Sigmund, as he convinced her that he needed to work on his project. Ciel was very docile and obedient, and therefore agreed after promising to go to the sea together.

For her, the sea itself was not important, she didn't care about the water and sand, they were exactly the same as in any other place or any other time. For her, the fact of Sigmund's presence was important.

This made her a truly amazing girl to be in a relationship with.

Sigmund himself thought this principle was truly sweet, since he had the same opinion. He even suspected that it was he who had influenced her so much because of his attitude and treatment. There was nothing surprising in this, since children often adopt the habits and views of their parents, it was just…

Sigmund is worried that Ciel will have little interest in life if she has too narrow a social circle, and so he gently and unobtrusively integrated her into the chat group. Saeko , one of the pillars of adequacy and balance in the chat, is almost always there. Sigmund himself thought highly of her, so he was not afraid to leave Ciel 1 on 1 with Saeko .

By the way, during this time, Sigmund managed to set up a machine that would produce components for creating Medallions. The prototype was already ready, in fact, it was even smaller than the Medallions that the Quincy had , since it was artificially made larger to make it easier to use. It was 5 centimeters in diameter, and more like a saucer. Thanks to Book of the End , Sigmund was able to properly set up and assemble the medallion so that it was as compact as possible. After all, he needs to have a lot of medallions with him, they can't be the size of a fist. And while Sigmund was working on his projects, Ciel was chatting.

Alabama's Tragic Love: Saeko , would you mind sharing your relationship experience?

Ciel was curious about the other members of the chat, as she simply didn't have any other close people. She saw how worried they were about her in the chat, although Esdeath was somewhat cold towards her, but Sigmund later explained to her the reasons for this behavior.

Sweet Slime: Relationships, huh? I'm afraid you asked the wrong person, because I died alone. I also held hands with one guy in school, but we quickly drifted apart.

Although this topic brought painful feelings to Saeko , it was not difficult for Ciel to remember the past. She actually saw Ciel as her younger sister. Saeko even felt how the burden of dissatisfaction was gradually leaving her shoulders.

Alabama's Tragic Love: I'm okay with little things like that. I'm just interested in how people interact with each other. I've only ever seen Sigmund in my life.

Sweet Slime: Oh, relationships in general, right? It's both simpler and more complicated at the same time. The thing is, it's a rather complex thing that often eludes us. We can subconsciously evaluate a person and treat them accordingly. We may not even understand the reason why we treat a person this way. It may be due to their character. We will behave more gently with a quiet person , and more freely with a friendly and open one. A person's appearance, general grooming and beauty can improve our favor towards him.

Tragic Love of Alabama: I understand that, I don't understand why people start to treat each other badly. Bully each other, put each other in an awkward position, insult or mock others. I can't understand it. People as social beings should strive for mutual assistance. They can't live without another person. So why do they start to mock other people for no reason?

Ciel was interested in this side of communication, she had never encountered such an attitude, and therefore it was alien to her worldview. Saeko did not understand how to answer this question correctly.

Sweet Slime: Well, I guess it all depends on the circumstances and the person's character? I didn't study sociology on such a global and in-depth level. My main task was to present the possibilities of my company, I'm a marketer.

Alabama's Tragic Love: Is It All Just a Matter of Personality? But then social pressure and natural selection should have eradicated such behavior?

Cute Slime: Um ... Well ... The thing is... Anyway. @EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !, Zig , help ! I don't know how to explain this to her in understandable language.

This wasn't the first time Ciel had cornered Saeko with her conversations. She didn't want to lose such a conversational partner, but she couldn't answer this question. She knew that as a responsible adult, Sigmund would look after Ciel , and so, without embarrassment, she asked him for help.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I heard your question, Ciel . In fact, it is a pretty good question, which is studied by sociology. There are several answers to such a question, I will start with the most banal - this is biology. Man is a biosocial creature, he still has a lot of instincts from animals. You correctly noted that natural selection should eradicate such behavior, and it does eradicate it, and in primitive society this is rare. There were many scientists who went to live with primitive tribes. They were quite friendly to them, helped if they could, in return this tribe told how they live. This shows that their sociality is at a fairly high level, without pronounced intraspecific aggression. However, the personal experience of all the scientists who lived with them at different times gave diametrically opposed results. Some said that they had never met more peaceful people of this tribe, while others referred to the unbridled cruelty of these people. Why do you think this happened?

Tragic Love Alabama: I don't know? Probably because of a difficult period in life?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: The thing is that people are quite friendly within their own community, but not to people outside it. Some scientists did not have time to see intertribal interaction, but others did. If a group from one tribe sees one hunter from another, then if possible, they will kill him. This is normal intraspecies competition.

Alabama's Tragic Love: It's... Horrible.

Despite the fact that Ciel received a detailed answer to her question, she was not happy. Saeko did not interfere, as she realized that Ciel was at least not much older than Mio , and also quite naive due to her lack of memory. This "meeting with reality" would only benefit Ciel .

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: That's life.

Tragic Love Alabama: But then why doesn't bullying happen within closed groups, but it continues in open groups?

Ciel wanted to look into this matter in more detail. She is interested in the world she and Sieg are in.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: There are several reasons for this. In primitive communities of people who were not engaged in agriculture , the main source of food was hunting and gathering. It was mainly men who went hunting, as you might guess, they were also the main ones in the relationships. Competition within the group has always been and will be, the only difference is what and how it will happen. It was often the case that there were more women in the group than men, since the latter could die while hunting, and therefore the main reason for intraspecific rivalry was practically absent. In more developed societies, the "picky wife" effect occurred, which determined the direction of rivalry. A good breadwinner - a bad breadwinner, this was often determined by the class / social status of a person. Wars and various feuds also disproportionately affected the male part of the population. Again, it turned out that there were more women, and less rivalry. Well, it also turned out that external pressure and losses incurred united people.

Alabama's Tragic Love: I understood why men were often the ones who were aggressive up until this point, but what about women? Why did they also start bullying other people in the modern world?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Until the middle of the last century, there were traditional families. Girls were brought up to be meek and obedient, they had to help their husbands, support them and raise children. In the modern world, there is no such division. Although girls are still calmer and less conflicted due to biology, even they want to assert themselves at the expense of others, to become superior to someone else. The easiest way is to find someone who stands out or is weak, and then start to bully them. There can be many reasons for such behavior: lack of self-confidence, a bad atmosphere in the family, and therefore the lack of upbringing as such, a bad mood, but the worst thing from this list is impunity. Nowadays, children have too many rights, an adult cannot always even punish a child accordingly. Yes, they will yell at a child, wag a finger, but they quickly get used to it, especially if you do not cultivate empathy and compassion in a person. As a result, it turns out that the child remains unpunished, at least he will consider himself as such, and also humiliated, which will worsen the mood, and this will entail repeated bullying. In the last century, a father or older brother could calmly beat the offender until he was black and blue as punishment for inappropriate behavior. And if the offender's family did not do this, then one of the older relatives of the victim could do it. There was less bullying then, since they did not go unpunished. Well, if a girl behaved unfemininely, then she received such social pressure that most simply committed suicide. But with all this, girls were treated with much more caution and attention. In the same Europe in the last century, for a girl to simply hold hands was a very serious manifestation of sympathy. This was done only in relationships. The first kiss occurred after the engagement or betrothal, and this is the maximum that a couple in love could do, then only husband and wife. In Asia it was even stricter. Girls were treated even more carefully there, for example, in some countries a man, even their own father, could not touch girls older than 6 or 7 years old. Well, ideally. And everything else, like holding hands or kissing, only after the wedding.

Alabama's Tragic Love: Got It...

Ciel began to think about the information she had just received. It was strange to her, to say the least.

Sweet Slime: Wow . Zig, you are quite knowledgeable. I couldn't explain such a complex topic in such a clear way. Do you have much experience in this?

Saeko also understood that it would be a bad idea to end on such a note. Ciel shouldn't dwell on such an idea, a superficial understanding would be enough to make important decisions in the future. Sigmund also understood this.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I had very inquisitive children, and so I got used to quite complex issues. Often, Orihime and I would go and figure out the issue right there on the spot, since it was already the age of the Internet. Well, I'm also quite observant. Whether I want to or not, I'll look through the life of the one on whom I use the Book of the End.

Sweet Slime: So you just put yourself in someone else's shoes?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: And yes , and No. I can put myself in another person's shoes , but it will not influence my judgment.

Alabama's Tragic Love: Why? If you can put yourself in someone else's shoes, and therefore understand their feelings, how can that not affect your judgment? That's the basics of empathy .

Saeko and Sigmund smiled inwardly. They knew that Ciel was especially interested in Sigmund, if only because he was the closest to her. Ciel stopped thinking about their previous conversation.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Because I have too much experience, relative to other people. Well, and I also try to be realistic, taking into account the circumstances. I will not sympathize with stupid people who are to blame for their own troubles. If they stubbornly shoot themselves in the foot, then there is no point in helping them. Any person with enough life experience will become cynical, unless he is a complete optimist.

Alabama's Tragic Love: I see. So I'm going to become cynical too?

Ciel knew the meaning of the word, but to her it was more of a negative than a positive characteristic of a person.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Cynicism is neither good nor bad. It's just normal. If you treat everyone nicely, you'll just be taken advantage of, and most of your efforts will be pointless. I remember one phrase, it sounded something like this: A cynical antihero is a grown-up paladin.

This idea was well imprinted in Ciel's memory , she didn't know why. She never considered herself a saint or too good, and certainly didn't dream of becoming a paladin who would protect others. It was just... the very idea of growing up caught her.

However, they did not allow the educational discussion to continue.

Gender Equality Supporter: I'm a little bothered by your overly cruel outlook on life. Do you really not care that much about the people around you?

Kazuma was worried about this. He was a very ordinary NEET. How could he communicate normally with such... Eccentric and extreme people? The only one with whom Kazuma could communicate normally was Rias . Mio and Maria were more or less , they were no longer interested in talking with Kazuma , which he was used to. Sato himself understood that sometimes they simply had no time. They used the chat for practical purposes.

Mio regularly pops into the chat to show the broadcast, ask for advice, or discuss important topics.

Maria is more lively, but she is more clingy to Siegmund, which is not surprising. Kazuma himself in her place would have openly pressed himself to Sieg's legs, begging for help.

Their future directly depends on their relationship with Zig.

And although Kazuma is not an expert in relationships or even in interpersonal interactions, Saeko is much more pleasant to communicate with Sieg, Esdeath , Mio, Maria and Ciel . And even then, she basically teaches the last one, and talks to the rest about "supernatural" topics. Yes, she gradually began to treat him better, but Kazuma is still a little awkward.

Esdeath and Sigmund.

The two of them had shown themselves to be very cynical people. Esdeath might have hidden it, but it wasn't hard to figure out her general character from the scattered comments. After all, he'd been watching them for a week now.

Kazuma's attitude . Zigmund had already written Kazuma and Rias into the "not very promising " category. They were too naive, stubborn and out of touch with reality. Even an idiot like Ichigo was quicker to accept the different order of things in the soul society, and it wasn't like democracy reigned there.

With Rias , everything is complicated. On the one hand, she is quite talented thanks to her pedigree, on the other, she has not distinguished herself in many ways. The same Mio has shown a high degree of learning ability, and most importantly, a desire to learn. Rias has shown little throughout history. As a result, it turns out that the world around her can offer many more than Rias herself . Yes, her pedigree is wonderful, except that there are much better analogues in the face of the Humanoid Demon and the Succubus.

No Sacred Gear Rias doesn't have it. In terms of research potential or potential subordinate, she's useless.

Rias is simply out of touch with reality, unwilling to face the truth, and also takes no responsibility for her actions, which is facilitated by her stupid older brother.

If it was someone like Vali Lucifer or Azazel in her place , things would have been much better.

Vali Lucifer is thirsty for battles, and also passionately wants to become stronger, besides, he has a well-coordinated squad consisting of talented people at his side. Arthur, Le Fay, Biko , Kuroka - they are all excellent fighters with good potential, besides, only Kuroka had an attachment to her world in the person of Shirone , if you give the others an alternative, then they will most likely go under the "common banner". They will never betray their friend.

And what's important is that Vali is very easy to provoke. You just have to give him a strong opponent to fight, and a way to become stronger. Sigmund just needs to give him both.

Azazel is a scientist and researcher of Sacred Gear , it is not difficult to find common topics for discussion with him. The same exchange of finished products as "twice critical" for a drug for regeneration for 1000 applications. In such cooperation, everyone will be in the black.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I don't see anything wrong with that. Can you be more specific about what you find disturbing?

Gender Equality Advocate: Well, you say so easily that being cynical is normal. Ordinary people think that it is bad. Cynicism is a disdainful attitude towards moral standards.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: First of all, being a cynic and having a cynical attitude towards people and things are not exactly the same thing. You can't be a 100% cynic no matter how much you want to. Secondly, it is precisely because of this morality that people get on the slippery slope. Explain to me what morality is.

Gender equality advocate: Well, morality is a system of norms, ideals, principles accepted in society that regulates people's behavior. The concept of what is good and what is bad.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay , we get it, morality is a shapeless thing that can be forgotten at the first opportunity, and is also very subjective depending on the context.

Gender equality advocate: Well, I wouldn't say so.

Kazuma wasn't used to such serious debates, but even he thought that Sieg was talking some kind of utter nonsense right now.

The rest were just curious to see what would happen next. The first confrontation between Sigmund and Kazuma was interesting, now there is a debate. They just recently watched Fate SN, so the topic of morals and ideals is still fresh.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Okay , let's go. Let's argue . Is tyranny always bad?

Gender equality advocate: Of course.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: By the way, tyranny has acquired a negative meaning, initially it was neutral. In your opinion, all totalitarian rulers are tyrants?

Gender equality advocate: More yes than no, I am more for freedom.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Mandatory confiscation of property under certain laws without mandatory compensation - tyranny?

Gender equality advocate: Of course.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: So the compulsory grain confiscation in the Middle Ages to maintain food supplies was also tyranny? In essence, the government was obliged to take grain from the peasants who worked in the fields for half a day with their own strength.

Gender Equality Advocate: That's... I don't know how to answer that.

Kazuma knows that he has fallen into a logical trap that Sigmund has set for him.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: See how tyranny has suddenly become ambiguous? By forcibly taking grain from the peasants, the government created food reserves in case of drought, frost, simply a bad year, or military action. What can we say if for most of human history, forms of government changed from Authoritarian to Totalitarian? In the modern world, for some reason, it is generally accepted that any authoritarian and especially totalitarian form of government is tyranny. Answer me this question, from a moral point of view, who is better. A tyrant who rules with an iron fist, killing a couple of hundred or thousand people a year for breaking the law, and taking away people's freedom to act as they want, forcing everyone to work, or a priest who coordinated a crusade? One killed hundreds of thousands, the other.

Gender Equality Advocate: I still have trouble answering. Which would you choose?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Quicker of all , a tyrant . Because he creates jobs and maintains stability in the country, while a priest with his "holy duty" only destabilizes countries, kills people and weakens the economy. Of course, every tyrant is different, but if the person is smart, he will develop the economy, because his well-being depends on the well-being of the country. Plus, you need to take into account the realities of the situation in which the events are taking place.

Esdeath watched the chat with curiosity. She knew her flaws, most people considered her sadism a clear flaw, as well as her views on life. Therefore, she prefers to remain silent to maintain a favorable impression when her honest answer could ruin everything.

And unexpectedly for her, Siegmund holds views relatively similar to hers. This greatly pleased Esdeath . What she was most afraid of was that Sieg would turn out to be some kind of "rainbow benevolent and moral idiot."

Gender Equality Advocate: This is a hypothetical scenario. Let's get to the point.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Cynicism opens a lot of doors, and also prevents you from making many enemies. We recently watched Fate SN, what do you think, Artoria Is Pendragon a good ruler? She is shown as almost a saint.

Gender Equality Advocate: Well, I think so.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I would argue with you about this, but not now. Are Medea of Colchis and Morgan le Fay monsters? And are they to blame for this?

Gender Equality Supporter: Medea no, as she was charmed by Artemis, and Morgana yes, she is to blame for it.

Ciel was interested to know more . She didn't analyze the characters' actions, for her it was more of a cartoon than something serious. Yes, an interesting cartoon, but nothing more. However, Sigmund assessed them from the point of view of real people, not characters, and therefore Ciel is interested to know the detailed criticism from Sigmund.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: That's a pretty interesting answer. Can you explain why Medea isn't a monster? Like, she personally chopped her brother to pieces in front of her father. Then she came up with and carried out a pretty cruel plan, where she killed Peleus' servant , then resurrected him, and then killed Peleus himself . And then, she and Jason were taken in by the King of Corinth, but because Jason decided to marry the princess of Corinth, Medea got furious. She came to the wedding, killed the king, the princess, and all the guests present at that wedding. In your opinion, this is not the act of a monster?

Everyone in the chat could feel the sly, mocking, and cruel grin appearing on Sigmund's face. It made them all feel uneasy, especially Kazuma .

Gender Equality Advocate: She did all this because Aphrodite charmed her and made her fall madly in love with Jason.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Aphrodite did not force Medea to kill the King of Corinth, who had previously sheltered her, albeit for a short time.

Gender equality advocate: So she was still enchanted. Besides, polygamous marriages were the norm at the time. Jason could convince the King of Corinth that Medea loved him madly, she had already proven it many times. And a mage of such a high level connected to the next king and heir is a good thing.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: So you admit that certain factors that push a person to commit certain immoral actions completely justify a person?

Gender equality advocate: Not just any circumstance, it has to be significant.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Let's remember this phrase, it is quite important in the context of the debate about morality. By the way, can your morality determine the boundary that separates "significant circumstance" from "insignificant " ?

Gender Equality Advocate: Uh ? No?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay. Then why do you think Morgana is a monster?

Gender Equality Advocate: She encouraged Mordred to rebel, sparking a revolution and a massacre that killed Artoria , the rightful ruler of Britannia.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: And Morgana is not the rightful ruler? Both Morgana and Artoria are women, and Morgana had enormous potential, and she also inherited the secrets of the British Isles. Even Uther could not achieve such "blood recognition from the Isles", so why did the throne go to Artoria , who did not undergo training to rule the kingdom like Morgana, and was also younger than her by 5, or even 10 or even more years?

Gender Equality Supporter: Well, Artoria became the ruler because Caliburn acknowledged her .

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Morgana was rejected before Artoria was even born , but that's okay. What does Caliburn have to do with it ? You know that someone enchanted it so that whoever pulled it out would become king? Where is the guarantee that the main wizard of the islands, Merlin, didn't fabricate all this in Artoria's favor? Merlin enjoyed Uther 's trust , so he would have believed him. Do you understand how stupid and cruel this looks from the outside?

Gender Equality Advocate: I'm not actually very familiar with the legend of King Arthur.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I'll tell you this in short. Merlin came up with the prophecy about the Red and White Dragon, Uther believed in it . On Morgana was slandered as a witch, a harbinger of trouble and generally unworthy of the throne. Uther believed it , Morgana became unworthy of the throne. Then Merlin drags Artoria , and she immediately takes out the sword. Cool, right? The eldest daughter, who diligently studied magic, tried to become worthy of the throne, but got a little confused. They began to slander her for simply studying black magic. Uther knew this, but did nothing, did not even try to dissuade her. Magic and especially black magic are not learned overnight, so he knew everything perfectly well, and knew for years. After the news that Morgana was a witch went to the people, Uther said that Morgana was not worthy of the throne. If she were worthy, then there would be no story with the Sword of Choice. This idiot didn't have the brains or the guts to stand up for his daughter's honor. We even got a flashback where Kya says it was like Morgana had three women inside her. Starting out as an "innocent fairy," she became "as gorgeous as a warrior maiden," and "then suddenly she had the cruelty of a witch." She wasn't an evil bitch to begin with for such rumors to be even remotely valid. Uther was an incompetent, driven idiot who wasn't worthy of being called a man. Do you have any idea how Morgana must have felt at that moment?

At that moment , Kazuma and everyone else in the chat were at a loss for words to respond. They weren't looking at Morgana's side of the story because she was the obvious villain.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Not Can you imagine ? Then I'll tell you. Morgana had to understand that she was an unwanted child, so unwanted that even her own father didn't want to defend her honor, literally disowning her as some kind of lying cheap thing. In that era and in that society, where reputation and honor were worth more than life, especially for women and young girls. From the very birth, no one loved her, she was only blamed for all the troubles and reproached for things she didn't do. No one needed her. At the same time, before her eyes, an example of how her "sister-golden one" received the throne, which should have been hers by birthright, loomed. A sister who received national love and glory. A sister who also did not consider it necessary to at least try to justify the reputation of her sister, who helped her. And at the same time, she saw all this for years. And do you know what the cruelest thing in all this is?

Gender equality advocate: No.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: The toughest thing is that Morgana didn't immediately become an "evil witch", she first wanted to prove to everyone that they were wrong. She wanted to get her honor and dignity back. At that moment, she became "as magnificent as a warlike maiden". It is important to understand that at that time the Saxons were actively attacking their lands, there was a war then, and therefore Morgana with a probability of more than 90% took part in the war, since she was a very powerful magician. But even this did not give her at least a share of the glory that her golden sister would later receive. She was still despised and hated because she was a witch. Most likely, she began to be hated even more because she clearly showed what she was capable of. From that moment on, it was simply impossible for her to wash off the stigma of a witch. I am sure that Morgana experienced a long-term apathy and depression. In the end, she decided to heal her wounded heart with carnal love. Perhaps it helped for a while, but most likely it hurt even more. Then came the desire to find solace in motherhood. Morgana had 5 children: Agravaine , Gawain , Gaheris , Gareth and Mordred . But apparently she did not find solace even in this. Agravaine justified Artoria's actions and inhuman image too much . Gawain became an admirer and secret symp Artoria . Gareth is a dead ringer for Gawain , he likes Artoria even more than his brother. At least Gaheris chose Mordred's side , which means he valued his family more than Artoria . And Mordred ... Well , at least I'm not ashamed of Mordred . After all, without him, the rebellion would not have happened ... But I'm getting way ahead of myself. All the time her children were knights of the round table, literally being the standard and example for everyone in Camelot and the surrounding lands, Morgana was still considered a witch. She literally supported them all from beginning to end. Most of their equipment was made by Morgana . A bad person could not raise good children, much less models of morality and nobility, like the Knights of the Round Table. Artoria and Merlin only had to say a couple of sentences to justify Morgana and restore her honor and dignity...

While Sigmund was once again gathering his thoughts, the chat was deathly quiet. After so much information had fallen on them, the chat members didn't know what they could say. They had all watched Maria's broadcast, they all knew the story of Artoria and Morgana, after all, that story had been given most of the screen time to Saber's route . They had thought that the story was tragic before, but... They didn't think it was tragic from that point of view. Only Esdeath felt some nostalgia. For some reason, she had a feeling that such a story could have happened in the capital.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: In the end, it was at this point that Morgana "unexpectedly took over the cruelty of a witch." Around this time, Guinevere , unhappy and trapped for a decade in a one-sided marriage with Artoria , fell in love with Lancelot . As a result of this event, Morgana lost her children. Gareth killed Lancelot , Agravaine died from his wounds. Think about it, because of another lie of Artoria , Morgana's children were killed. Morgana, Mordred and Gaheris had every reason to hate Artoria . Artoria poisoned Morgana's life even before her own birth, and continued to do so her entire life. There is a saying. "A child who does not receive warmth from a village will burn it to the ground to feel its warmth." In the end, Morgana did just that. And with all this, Artoria herself said that she considers Morgana not only her sister, but also a mother to her and a reflection of herself. This is one of the most false, cynical and hypocritical phrases I have ever heard! And I have heard a lot in my life ! ... So, Kazuma , do you still consider Morgana a monster? Or did your morality consider that these circumstances were sufficiently "significant"? And how much must a person suffer for his revenge to be considered "just" from a moral point of view?

Gender Equality Supporter: Yes, Morgana is not a monster. And I don't know the answer to the other question.

Kazuma's worldview has been so severely damaged that it has been shattered into many pieces. It is unlikely that he will ever be able to put it back together. There is already too much mistrust and cynicism in it.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Maybe Artoria , Uther, and Merlin are monsters now? All they needed to do to make Camelot prosper was say a few words and issue one decree. Throughout Morgana's life, they've been steadily raising her to be a monster.

Gender Equality Advocate: I don't know. It's too complicated a question for me.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: As I said before, the cynical antihero is a grown-up Paladin.

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: I have a feeling that you really don't like Kazuma . Every time you have a serious conversation about something, Kazuma almost gets humiliated.

While the others were digesting the information they had received, and Kazuma was trying to piece together his shattered worldview, Esdeath was satisfying her curiosity. During the entire argument between Sieg and Kazuma , Esdeath had physically felt a sense of dominance over Kazuma , along with a unique sadistic pleasure from inflicting mental suffering on others. Siegmund could inflict incomparable suffering on others, mocking their own world and their very way of thinking, putting them in a pitiful, maximally helpless, feeble and vulnerable state, depriving them of even a hint of resistance, showing absolute dominance .

Esdeath hadn't felt such pleasure in a long time.

She really felt like she was falling in love with Sigmund.

And the best part was that Sigmund himself still looked quite righteous and noble after this.

Esdeath even felt like she had an orgasm in the middle of her monologue.

To Esdeath, Sigmund was a god-level chef who created an incredibly tempting and alluring delicacy.

Ramsay should be here )

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Oh no, you're just misunderstanding me. I'm giving him clear and constructive criticism using a specific example. I'm teaching him that in the adult world, you can't survive without a certain amount of cynicism. And if he wants to dive into the world of the supernatural , he needs to be old enough to understand that not all heroes wear shiny armor and not every victim has to be poor or tyrannized by those in power. In order not to be deceived and used, he needs to be a good judge of character, and for that, he needs a certain amount of cynicism.

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: I get it. It reminds me of one of my father's lessons.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Kazuma , do you have any questions?

Gender Equality Advocate: Must You Be So Cynical?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Unfortunately, this is a must. Have you watched the anime or manga "Magic Battle"?

Gender equality advocate: I watched it.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Oh, there was one good moment. I think it was in episode 2. Gojo sent Nobara on a mission, checking whether she was abnormal or not. When he realized that she was abnormal, he said that she was suitable for the job of a shaman. It was just in the category of cynicism, although it was shown crookedly. Another example? There are many anime characters who explain the suffering of others by saying that they are weak. It's a pretty cynical attitude, isn't it? However, it only shows how unfair and cruel the world is. I hope you understand.

Gender Equality Advocate: That's... Thanks, I guess...

Kazuma still had to re-evaluate his world, as well as his future. If his future was even remotely similar to " Fate ", then he should harden his heart.

Mio looked at the chat screen with some nostalgia. She had been in a similar state recently. Surprisingly, she had become much more indifferent and sarcastic. She herself was surprised by how casually and quickly these changes had happened. She blamed her supernatural blood for everything.

Saeko knew that a dose of cynicism was necessary in adult life, so she did not interfere. Now she was filled with melancholy. In the past, she would have needed cynicism.

Sigmund didn't stop at just Kazuma. He had several goals.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Ciel , you listened to me carefully, so I will say it straight. When meeting any people, you must first evaluate them with a significant amount of cynicism. And only after you have considered them reliable enough, namely reliable, and not moral, can you evaluate them from an emotional point of view and consider them people. Using Artoria as an example Pendragon , you can see an unreliable person who does not deserve an ounce of sympathy, since she is to blame for most of her troubles and problems herself, because she is not human enough to show empathy and care, let alone to your loved ones, and even to your "sister and mother." A relationship with such a person will only bring suffering and destruction.

Ciel always listened attentively to Sigmund, especially when he was explaining something, like now. It only took one dialogue for him to make her reconsider her view of the seemingly tortured and innocent girl.

Because of how significant the impact of this conversation was, one thought was firmly ingrained in Ciel's mind .

An unreliable person does not deserve compassion.

If a person is not reliable enough, then he is not human enough.

An unreliable person is not a person.

[The Illogical Exhibitionist Online!]

Illogical Exhibitionist: This is too cruel and cynical a way to meet people! Ciel , don't listen to him!

Rias had just taken the time to read the chat, but she didn't expect Sigmund to get so worked up!

The worst thing is that he is trying to make others just as cruel and inhuman!

It was ironic that the pure-blooded demon cared most about the humanity of people he barely knew.

Alabama's Tragic Love: ... I don't think Sigmund said anything unwise. He simply advised me to be careful in choosing my surroundings. A person may have his eccentricities, but if he is reliable, he deserves understanding and sympathy.

Illogical exhibitionist: How do you know if a person is reliable? It's very difficult to understand without emergency situations!

Alabama's Tragic Love: I just need to pay attention and do my research. Besides, it's not hard for supernaturals to create a situation like this. I'll just have to call a stronger friend . If the new guy dumps me, I'm not that important to him.

This example was rather simple and primitive, but it was common. There were many guys with average strength who reveled in their power. Rias herself understands that most devils are horny idiots, so "aggressive pick-up attempt" is not strange.

Illogical Exhibitionist: Are you really going to turn your back on everyone after just one incident?

Tragic Alabama Love: If he leaves me when he thinks I'm about to be raped, then he's not my friend.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Rias , let's end this argument here. It's unlikely to lead to anything. Don't worry, I'll make sure Ciel doesn't fall into bad company.

Illogical Exhibitionist: Are you really going to act like her father? Like a controlling one.

Sigmund raised an eyebrow in surprise and irritation. He might not be the most well-mannered or decent person, but even he found it offensive when he was called controlling.

Yes, it pisses him off, because every second person constantly asks or thinks about how he controls everyone around him. That's why he has so few close acquaintances and friends, and that's why he valued them so much. With his Fullbring, such thoughts about control on his part and mistrust were not surprising, and after Aizen's betrayal , almost natural ... However, this does not mean that constant mistrust does not offend and hurt Sigmund himself.

Of course, Sigmund was angry.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Rias , the entire conversation up until now has been primarily educational, with the goal of showing that you need to understand people. Not everyone is good just because they look good. And not everyone deserves sympathy, much less forgiveness. With your last comment, you made me angry. Let's do this: we all stop talking about this topic together, forget about it for a while, and then calmly continue the conversation about something else. About Mio and Kazuma's progress in training , or advice on buying items in the store.

Cute Slime: That's a good suggestion.

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: What would you advise me to buy at the store?

Saeko and Esdeath quickly picked up on the idea. Saeko was generally a rather non-confrontational person, while Esdeath had a special place for the theme of strength.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: In terms of usefulness in the chat, the first place goes to the bloodline. After all, it is the basis of everything. You already have a fairly strong foundation, as well as a good skill, thanks to the Demon Extract. Now you will need to increase your endurance and speed. Humanoid Demon is a good and balanced choice, as it improves you in all aspects, especially in survivability, without giving any specific weaknesses. However, if you get the same potential as Mio , and this is gravity magic, then you will first of all have to hone your control, since the power in you will be immeasurable. Pure Demon does the same, but instead of gravity magic, you will get the power of destruction. You are unlikely to get the same boost as from the Humanoid Demon, but you will get a weakness to everything related to holy. Succubus is the most preferable choice for experienced fighters, since it gives the greatest boost to endurance. The advantage will be the ability to further study the Reverse Key, which will strengthen you for a while. With your beauty, you will definitely receive excited or lustful glances, which will replenish your life force and make you stronger. I advise you to save up AP and buy a Succubus. I myself plan to do the same.

Esdeath listened attentively to Sieg's reasoning, after which she came to the conclusion that Succubus is the right choice. She is highly dependent on her endurance. She will definitely not take "Mage", since to reveal this race, many years of systematic training in magic are needed, which Esdeath cannot receive.

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: Thank you. I think I'll do the same.

However, Rias was also very angry, as she had just had a very unflattering conversation with her father, who was openly pushing her to marry Raiser , without taking her opinion into account at all. In Rias 's opinion , he was too controlling, and now Siegmund had started doing roughly the same thing .

Illogical Exhibitionist: Don't shut me up! I'm tired of living around overly controlling people, I won't let you do the same!

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Rias , the last one chance . Either you stop being such a stuck-up princess or I'm going to get personal. You've really hurt me. Believe me, it won't be hard for me to drag you through the mud so that you'll doubt your own worth and even your life.

Illogical exhibitionist: Well, try it.

Rias wasn't afraid of such threats. She already felt that she was old enough not to be told what to do anymore.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Well What well … I tried to prevent this.

Sigmund's voice was tired. He knows that he is not good at interacting with naive people, especially with children outside of the elder position. He can't stand Ichigo .

Maria and Esdeath had a premonition of the upcoming performance!

Mio, despite not fully agreeing with Zig's words, remained silent. She agreed with the basic message, just not in such a harsh manner.

Maria, thanks to Sheila's upbringing , almost completely agreed with everything Zig said. She disagreed with him like a blockhead, because being a fan is a bad option. It would just be annoying. Besides, a little sister shouldn't always be an appendage of her Onii-chan .

Well, Esdeath felt like it was her birthday today!

There's another amazing dish waiting for her ahead!

She had no doubts about Sigmund's skills in "roasting people."

Well, Kazuma was still in an uncertain state. He needed to think.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Let's do it this way, I'll generously allow you to answer my questions, assuming that you and your brother will be better than in the work I'm familiar with. Let's start with your brother. Is it true that he was the main fighting force during the revolution in hell about 6 centuries ago, standing up against the old lords? And he also had an active social stance, saying that demons should become less cruel and more liberal?

Illogical exhibitionist: Yes, that's why he is considered a hero of that war. And the revolution was about 5 centuries ago. There is no exact date, since it all began with individual skirmishes of noble houses with different views. And this happened for about 40 years.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Let's get this straight. The old lords truly believed that demons were the strongest race in the world, and everyone else had to bow their heads to them, becoming their slaves or something. They actively indulged in lust, laziness, and anger, killing normal demons just because they were in a bad mood?

Illogical Exhibitionist: Yes, they had a very bad character, although they did not kill their servants very often.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: But they raped human women and actively committed such outrages in the Middle Ages.

Illogical exhibitionist: It happened. It's not for nothing that we are disliked, however, modern demons are different.

Rias saw no point in lying about these matters. Anyone who entered her world would be able to find out. Being revealed as a liar would be worse than admitting to the wickedness of the previous generations of demons.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: We'll find out later. How often do you get missions to eliminate renegade demons?

Illogical Exhibitionist: About once every 3~4 weeks.

Rias decided to smooth things over by doubling the term. It would be impossible to catch her in this lie, and besides, you can simply say that "canon is approaching", which immediately explains all the oddities.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Okay , we are remembered . Further, I remember that after the Great War and the revolution the number of demons sharply decreased, and to replenish it, Ajuka Beelzebub invented "Parts of Evil", which turn a representative of any race into a demon, except for Gods and Buddha.

Illogical Exhibitionist: True.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: What is the male to female ratio in general and among pureblood demons?

Illogical Exhibitionist: The Ignobles have a big gap in numbers. On average, about 5 women to 1 man. After all, it was a conservative system back then, where the woman was responsible for the home and the man for everything else. The army was predominantly made up of men. The purebreds, on the other hand, have about the same ratio of men to women. The meaning can change from generation to generation.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Only a high-class demon(?) gets the Evil Pieces, and when his servant gets that rank, he gets his own set of pieces, but is still a subject of the previous king. And he never leaves the clan.

Illogical Exhibitionist: Yes, it is a social elevator. Rank or title is awarded according to completed contracts or other merits, such as achievements in wartime or in some scientific field. Well, and provided that the strength corresponds.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Now, which demon clans treat their servants well? At least neutrally or on a professional-working level.

Again, this was widely known information in the supernatural community. Lying would simply be counterproductive.

Illogical Exhibitionist: Clans that treat their servants as family include the Gremory and Sitri , and occasionally some of the Phoenix Clan. As hired labor: most notably Phoenix, Vapula , Agares , Astaroth , and Gracio-Labolas . The rest treat their servants as replaceable servants.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay, so Shirone was tried to be executed because of Kuroki's actions ?

Illogical Exhibitionist: Yes, my brother protected her then.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I'll argue with that later. One last question that might at least partially exonerate your brother. What sphere is Sirzechs Lucifer responsible for?

Everyone in the chat could hear the mockery in Sigmund's voice. Ciel , on the other hand, was trying to piece together the big picture based on the information she had received. Sigmund's questions weren't random, but they didn't seem consistent either.

But each time, putting these facts together, an unflattering picture emerged.

Rias also felt that there was something fishy about Sieg's question, but then again, he was only asking for common information. If she lied in these answers, she would lose all trust.

She also knew that Mio would have nowhere to go, she was counting on luring her over to her side, since her potential was quite good, even the initial level of strength was quite outstanding. It wouldn't take Mio too much time to grow to her father's level.

This was the original plan before it was revealed that Siegmund lives in a very wealthy family. Rias has most likely already lost Mio as a potential candidate. However, there are still Kazuma , Esdeath , Saeko and Ciel . Ciel is already lost, as she follows Siegmund like a duckling follows its mother duck. Esdeath barely communicates, but judging by her answers, her views are similar to Sieg's, and Rias herself does not want such a person in her family.

But with Saeko and Kazuma there is still a chance, especially with Kazuma , since the two of them have a good relationship, at the level of friends, and thanks to the chat he has huge potential, bribing him will be relatively easy.

And if Sigmund finds evidence of her lies, then she will lose all trust, and therefore potential members of her group. Rias is absolutely sure that he will definitely visit her world. Sigmund has repeatedly mentioned his work with Urahara , and therefore he most likely has the highest skills in working with souls. Having at least a rough idea of \u200b\u200bwho has what Sacred Gear , Sigmund can simply come to her world, get a couple of gears for himself and his party, and then significantly strengthen himself. This is the easiest way for him to strengthen himself at someone else's expense.

The potential of any Sacred Gear is at the highest level, and their power is entirely dependent on the strength of their owner. Even the most common "Double Critical" will significantly increase all of Sigmund's abilities.

And she doesn't even want to think about how strong he will become with a strong sacred gear.

Illogical Exhibitionist: My brother is in charge of internal affairs.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Well , I've figured it out. You've simply destroyed your beloved brother. Do you want to understand why?

The mockery in Sigmund's voice was still there. He was genuinely amused by the situation. The rest of the chat didn't understand a thing.

Except Esdeath and Ciel .

Sadistic dominatrix #1: Ahahahaha ! What a twist! Thank you, Sigmund, I also realized what a lying dump this is. I thought it couldn't get any worse than the capital.

Esdeath knew what economics was, she also understood politics and such an important thing as assessing opportunities. Especially population growth. And these answers clearly show the true state of affairs of the demonic society. And Sigmund will prove it. Esdeath does not consider herself smarter than Sigmund, after all, it was he who asked such key questions, which means he himself understands the issue.

The rest were perplexed by Esdeath's comment .

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I'm glad I could make you laugh, S, Desu . (?)

All Japanese speakers understood this play on words, but they didn't understand why Esdeath was a sadist.

Esdeath herself did not understand this play on words.

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: Are you ... flirting with me?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Just some harmless flirting. Do you mind if I continue the previous conversation?

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: Go ahead.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Thank you. Now, Rias ... Have you ever tried to draw parallels between the policies of the Old and New Lords?

Illogical Exhibitionist: They are completely different.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: And this will also be partially true, but only superficially. You see, to get almost universal hatred, you have to try really hard, especially in the situation that the demons are in. Think about it yourself, the demons, as a faction, do not have a single partner or ally. Don't you find this strange? You have huge resources and military power, with your help you can improve the economy of almost any other faction quite well.

Illogical Exhibitionist: For the major factions, this is normal. For example, the Hindu pantheon also has no allies. Well, it's still a legacy of the old overlords' reputation.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: The Hindu pantheon is not an ordinary representative, since by ... Well, let it be "volume" it is not inferior to the Biblical pantheon, and even surpasses it. Not to mention that it has no obvious opponents, but it will most likely be able to make peace with the Yokai and Shinto Gods Faction. They have many common cultural customs, many common traditions and even combat directions. What can we say if Sun Wukong calmly walks around Japan and communicates with Yokai in a friendly manner ? The Yokai themselves are also well settled, they have more or less good relations with the Fallen Angels, they do not touch ordinary Angels, they are neutral with them. I do not know about other factions. The Fallen Angels are good friends not only with the Yokai , but also with the Scandinavian Faction, and on a personal level. Azazel quietly walks alone through street bars together with Odin, they have agreements, partnership. In the end, Azazel pushed his adopted son Vali to the teachers of Scandinavian magic, and it seems to be preserved as national property. Angels created their own faction, exorcists . Yes, they are almost useless, but it is the Vatican that collects all possible bearers of holy swords and powerful Sacred Gear , and are also a major information intelligence network of Heaven… Rias , do you know what's most absurd?

Illogical Exhibitionist: No?

She didn't look at her race's politics that way. Small factions usually couldn't do anything when the truly powerful stepped in. There were many small factions, like the Korean gods. They weren't as famous as the Japanese, and they were weaker. There were also the Vampires, but they were a modern supernatural joke .

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: I you I'll explain . Among all the Factions, only the Yokai tried to trust the demons. And do you know what happened?

Illogical Exhibitionist: Not really. Ordinary demons don't have such data. Not even noble ones.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I don't need to know secret information. It's enough to know common knowledge . The Yokai didn't have territory in the underworld. Shinto had Yomi , but that's different. The Nekoshuo settled in the demons' territory. Moreover, they settled in such a way that after the death of her father and mother, Kuroka was forced to carry and provide for her sister Shirone , and not go to her relatives. In the end, she ended up in the Naberius clan . I will even generously omit the details of the fact that unethical experiments were conducted on the Nekoshuo to create a Super Devil. They tried to conduct similar experiments on Shirone , but Kuroka killed her King first. What did this lead to? The demons rebelled "How dare this flea-bitten creature kill her king?! Kill all her relatives!" Well, in the end, the demons committed genocide on those living separately Nekoshuo . Were they to blame for Kuroka killing her King? No. Did the demons care about this fact? No, they didn't. Think about it, Rias ! The only faction that believed that demons had changed received the genocide of a separate race of their faction. And not just any race, but those who were representatives of the Yokai faction ! Think about this absurdity!

Sadistic dominatrix #1: Ahahahahahahaha , wow! In my world, they would have declared war on such an insult and disregard for such a disregard.

Sweet Slime: None of you. I'm actually surprised that Rias isn't at war right now.

Gender equality advocate: I'm shocked.

Mio couldn't find words for such senseless and unjustified cruelty. Well, Maria just tried to imagine the demons of her world doing something like that. Even the most warlike ones wouldn't do such a thing.

Rias though … I didn't think about this incident from that angle. It just looks crazy.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: And here, like a knight on a white horse, the famous Sirzechs Lucifer appears. He nobly saves Shirone , who was sentenced to death for the "sins" of her sister, after which he puts a collar and chain on her and transfers her to the "property of Rias" Gremory ", having carefully processed it emotionally, informationally and psychologically.

Illogical Exhibitionist: What makes you think that?

Rias could still believe that the Naberius were able to brazenly ignore the fundamental laws, but to portray her brother in such a light?

Never.

Sigmund was too cynical to believe the smiling mask on Sirzechs Lucifer's face.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Rias , use your brain, what did your brother say to little Shirone ? " Kuroka went crazy because she practiced senjutsu ." And it is because of this that Shirone hates her sister and is pathologically afraid of using her racial abilities. She would rather die than use senjutsu . This is called psychological processing. Once again. Yes, senjutsu is dangerous because it puts pressure on the brain, but ... For Youkai? For Nekoshuo , who has the ability to use Senjutsu in his blood? This is pure idiocy and madness on the level of "a succubus went crazy and took a vow of celibacy because of the lust surrounding her." Not only does this make Kuroka look like a crazy fool who does not know how to think before , has no attachment and does not know how to take responsibility for himself, which is categorically inconsistent with Kuroki's past actions , and this nonsense cannot be thought up even in a drunken stupor. Only an easily suggestible little child who does not really understand anything in the situation, who has experienced a traumatic event, would believe this nonsense. Well, Shirone was just an easily suggestible little child who was psychologically processed. Do you want to know more about your manipulative brother?

Rias was in an unusually broken state for herself. She began to look at the facts that had been revealed in retrospect, and therefore ... She could not find a flaw in Sieg's logic. This version of events seemed logical. She had not heard of any more Yokai that had gone mad from senjutsu , and there were many such species. Well, Nekoshuo were not so rare before...

Illogical exhibitionist:…

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: I'll take that as a yes. You know, I've always been interested in your servants. Think about it, they all have great potential, and each of them has their own tragic past. Among Sona's servants, only Tsubaki has such potential and a past . We've sorted out Shirone , she was clearly a victim of your brother's manipulations. We still have three left. Akeno Himejima was also a little girl who experienced a very painful separation from her family. Her mother was killed almost before her eyes because Shuri married a fallen one, and also because of the birth of Akeno herself . She is not so easily suggestible, but she is still a little child. She traveled alone for about six months to a year, exorcising various spirits. Understanding her approximate location and route is not difficult. Especially considering that the demons should have been interested in Brakiel's constant visits to the same place in Japan for several years, and then the sudden activity of the Himejima clan , who dug their noses into the ground, trying to get rid of such a "disgrace" as Akeno . And you meet her completely by chance, walking in the forest. Okay, I'm an idiot, I believe in miracles and fate, so your meeting is an accident. And screw it, she could be unhappy with her father because he wasn't there when she and her mother were attacked, but for a child to hate a loving parent? A parent that this same child used to love? A normal child, even after a tragedy, will justify their parent with all their might. It's like Ichigo hating Ishin because he wasn't there when Masaki died . It's obvious psychological processing. Next on the list is Kiba Yuto. A survivor of the Holy Sword Project, kept in a cell, used as a lab rat, like the other children from that project. He had some kind of magic, which increased his chances of survival. You met him while walking at night, in the winter in a forest somewhere in Europe... Rias , one question, why did you even go there? I can believe that this meeting was an accident, since a small child would rather die of frostbite than have time to become a "gift".

Illogical exhibitionist:… I don't even remember the reason anymore…

Rias' voice was truly pathetic and broken. All the pride and arrogance she had before had simply disappeared.

Esdeath got an unforgettable pleasure from putting the arrogant girl in her place. She knew Rias was a noble, Esdeath wanted to teach her a life lesson, but she restrained herself because she wanted to have a good image and relationships with the rest of the group. Sigmund can travel around the worlds without problems, but the rest need permission from a chat member and an admin or just an admin? Esdeath does not know, so she keeps herself in check.

However, such a submissive and plaintive voice of an arrogant noblewoman gave Esdeath indescribable pleasure. She could just imagine Rias kneeling down, face down on the floor, and begging for mercy.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Well, it doesn't matter. All we have left is Gasper Vladi. Dhampir , another hybrid, but this time with Sacred Gear on the level of Longinus . With the help of his girlfriend, he was able to escape, but somehow he came across vampires in Romania who mortally wounded him, after which you revive him with the help of a "piece of evil". And if I could write off the previous servants as a "miraculous meeting" or fate, then this is outright manipulation. Well, a small, weak Dhampir without food and means of existence could not escape from obviously stronger vampires who want to kill him. He did not go beyond the borders of Romania, he could not without outside help. So Rias , tell me honestly, what the hell were you doing on the territory of another faction? No sane person would send a little girl to the lair of vampires. This is an obvious setup. This is already a pattern.

Illogical exhibitionist:… It's none of your business…

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Look, does anyone still have teeth?

Sigmund, like Esdeath , enjoyed such slow transformations of stupid children. Yes, he could get sadistic pleasure, but he did not drown in it. He also did not consider his actions excessive, since such "character corrections" also took place in his world, only unlike simple words, he was also cut into meat with swords.

Gender equality advocate: Well, it can't get any worse.

Kazuma didn't understand much, but for him Rias was an ordinary girl, and here a huge mass of criticism and bullying fell on her.

Sadistic Dominatrix #1: Oh no! The best part is yet to come.

Alabama's Tragic Love: And the Most Disgusting Thing.

While Esdeath enjoyed the spectacle, watching Rias's latest attempts at defiance , Ciel grew increasingly disillusioned with Rias and her family. Ciel had access to the chat since day one, and it was no surprise to her that Rias was inviting everyone to join her family, claiming that they would be treated extremely well.

This doesn't really fit with the fact that she has a manipulative brother with a sister complex in her family.

Ciel almost instantly lost all favor with Rias and her race as a whole.

And despite the fact that Rias called Sieg controlling and manipulative, at least he shows genuine concern. What was the point of him dragging himself to an unknown world, to an unknown place and for an unknown reason, and then having to babysit a big kid for at least a few more weeks?

He doesn't know her "manga personality" or her abilities, but he helps her. He spends time with her every day, teaches and mentors her.

Ciel strongly doubts that the same Sirzechs would allow a girl without any abilities to be in his sister's circle, especially occupying the figure of evil.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: The girls are right. The worst is yet to come. To hell with these Yokai , in case of war Sirzechs alone would kill them all in a day or two, and that's why they didn't even try. The demon society itself has hardly changed since the revolution. Yes, it has become more liberal, but only for demons, and they still see the rest as either slaves, or worthless, or enemies. The Evil Pieces system allows up to 15 creatures weaker than the King to be reincarnated at the same time. Yes, this system was not created immediately after the revolution, but somewhere in the next century, but even so, the demons ultimately had 4 centuries to restore their numbers. The number of demons has always been in the legions, and that's tens of thousands, and purely military-oriented, not taking into account another 90% or so of the civilian population. In these legions, at least 5% must have the level of a high-class demon, and therefore each of them must receive their own set of figures. Let's say that after the revolution, each of the 33 clans had 10 legions left. And with simple mathematics we find out that with a strong desire, the demons could replenish 2,475,000 demons at a time if each used the maximum number of figures. They could get this number in 1 year. And if the demons really wanted to, they could extract their figures after 25 years of diligent training of their servants. This is still a conservative period. Total ... We get 16 parties of 2,475,000 demons over 4 centuries. This is 39,600,000 demons. Moreover, I did not count all those who could already lay claim to their own sets, and then this would already be an exponential playful growth, not taking into account the natural growth of the population. In short, if the demons really had a goal of increasing the population, they would have coped with this task long ago, but ... As Rias said , only Gremory , Sitri , Phoenix, Vapula , Agares , Astaroth and Gracio-Labolas treat reincarnated demons normally . That is, only 7 clans out of 33, the rest treat their servants as slaves.

Sigmund gave some brutal statistics, and he deliberately took understated figures, well, the demons couldn't have shrunk so much in numbers that they only had 330 legions left. Bael alone had 66 legions, Paimon 200, Sitri 60, Beleth 85, and the rest had an average of 30 legions. And this is only according to the Lemegeton . And these are only the military.

Usually, for large countries, the percentage of military population to the total number of inhabitants of the country was about 1% or even less. So such a large faction as demons would definitely be much larger in number than the figures provided.

Illogical Exhibitionist: That's ... Not quite right. Our conversion speed is not that high. If it were, other factions would have united against us by now. Especially since demons try to recruit talented people into their retinue.

Rias tried to defend the honor of her race, but ... It looked downright pathetic.

And Esdeath enjoyed these futile attempts.

Tragic Love of Alabama: Then all the high-ranking demons are even worse than we thought. You yourself admitted that you kill a renegade once every 3.5 weeks. I dare to assume that these renegades are reincarnated demons. You statistically kill 15 such demons per year. A whole set that a "thrifty demon" will collect for many years. Why is there such a high "turnover" among demons? Is it because they are treated like slaves?

Rias immediately realized that she had fallen into a trap that she could not escape from. Sigmund had deliberately asked questions out of order so that she would not understand what he was getting at .

It's not like she could lie.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Ciel , that's it. more worse . The thing is, the demon clans are incredibly rich. They can literally throw money down the drain, but they won't run out of money. Even if they were treated with extreme disdain, ordinary mercantilism and the desire for a good life would make them be good servants and quickly rise in power to get their own set of figures. You have to try REALLY HARD for a person to voluntarily leave such a "job". Millions of people work in toxic companies that openly exploit them, but they still work for them because of the high wages. And this is despite the fact that Rias is in Kuoh , in the middle of nowhere, where there is simply no point in going. Well, most demons can't just teleport between worlds at will. Demons even have a special train to get from Earth to Hell. Putting all these facts together, it becomes clear that most demons treat people like real slaves in the worst sense. I'll say even more, the heir of the Astaroth family , Diadora Astaroth gathers a group of former nuns, whom he psychologically breaks. He has either 15 or 14 figures.

Illogical Exhibitionist: There are bad demons too.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: It is statistically correct to say that there are normal demons sometimes. With 500 years of rule and unprecedented administrative and legal power, your brother and the rest of the Maou have not really changed demon society. It was ultra-racist, and it remains so at its core. Only a small portion of demons have become more liberal, and that is due to the influence of human culture, and not the efforts of Sirzechs . And the "renegade demon" system only encourages disgusting treatment of servants. Apparently, there is no check on the status of servants among the various "kings". Not to mention that other demons like you often steal members of other factions. And Serafall is the one getting it . Apparently, your brother was wildly fucking Grayfia at his desk for his job. Lucifuge : No, I don't argue, fucking such a wife is a sacred thing, but he has to do his business.

It was the most brutal roasting Rias had ever received. She was so angry, so humiliated and furious that she couldn't even express her emotions. She deeply respected and admired her brother, but ... B u t she couldn't protect him in any way. She also felt helpless.

Her helplessness and humiliation were so strong that everyone in the unit could feel it.

Esdeath took pleasure in Rias being humiliated like this .

Gender Equality Supporter: Sieg, maybe you should stop bullying Rias's brother already ? She has no control over this after all . It's stupid to criticize Rias herself for something she can't change.

Hearing Kazuma's words , Rias's heart immediately warmed. She realized that there were kind people in this chat who cared about her after all.

Esdeath and Sigmund immediately realized that Kazuma had become a Simp. Rias . They don't understand when he fell in love with her. Sigmund felt sorry for him, and Esdeath felt disgust for him. She despised such "admirers" the most, as they voluntarily became slaves to someone else's interests. She could understand if such people were sought after, deserving their unwavering faith and devotion, but for no reason?

They were pathetic.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay, I won't justifiably criticize her brother anymore, instead I'll criticize Rias . I promised her I'd crush her to shit .

Gender Equality Supporter: Hey! Sigmund! Stop it already! You're driving Rias crazy!

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: No, Kazuma , I won't stop. Rias thinks of herself as a big girl, so she should be able to take responsibility. She wanted me to smash her, so I'm going to smash her to smithereens.

Rias understood that Siegmund was incredibly stubborn and determined, and in the end he lived to fight Yahweh, even though he had to go through hell in the form of Shikai and Bankai to do so . Zaraki , and then Bankai Unohana .

Not to mention that he'll still make her cry.

It's better to do it right away.

Illogical Exhibitionist: Okay, Zig, go ahead. You're not going to shut up until you're done. And I don't think I did enough to make his criticism make me cry or anything.

Sigmund, Ciel , Saeko , Maria, Mio, and even Esdeath were surprised by such a significant growth. She was truly broken some time ago, and now ... She is challenging Sigmund again?

Esdeath even became interested in watching how Sigmund would finally break her.

Gender Equality Advocate: Rias … You shouldn't have said that…

Only Kazuma was worried about Rias .

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay . Answer a couple more questions. Are pureblood demon weddings shown live on TV?

Illogical Exhibitionist: It's a very rare occurrence, so yes, they do show it.

Sigmund can sense this Spanish shame that Rias will experience , even Sigmund himself is a little ashamed of the absurdity of this situation, but still...

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay. Was the marriage of convenience between Phoenix and Gremory planned long ago? Was it considered from a business deal perspective?

Illogical Exhibitionist: Of course it was considered. That's the whole point of a marriage of convenience.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay. Has Raiser ever blatantly groped your ass or breasts? Undressed you in public, touched you in the wrong places, or made crude statements about what he was going to do to you?

Illogical exhibitionist: No. But he just kept undressing me with his eyes.

Sigmund felt uneasy about this information.

He felt extremely strange.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay ... I don't know how to comment on this, but let's say. The first thing I'd like to know is, do you hate Raiser ?

Illogical Exhibitionist: "Hate" is a bit of an exaggeration, but I despise it.

Rias wasn't stupid enough to hate a man for being attracted to her.

After all, she had a truly sinful body.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: So... I'm confused ... But okay. Let's move on to the constructive part. Rias , can you tell me why you haven't dealt with the issue of the moral component of your subordinates? Your "family"? Think about it, Akeno despises herself, it won't lead to anything good. Sooner or later, but sooner rather than later, Akeno will simply begin to self-reflect , which will lead her to depression, and then apathy with possible suicide. Believe me, from my extensive experience, a person who despises himself is prone to suicide. Moreover, with the number of years he lives, his connection with reality will decrease more and more. In the end, everything will reach a state where he begins to doubt his own existence and the feelings of the people around him. Considering that Akeno constantly wears the Yamato mask Nadeshiko really gets off on causing suffering to fallen angels, she thinks she's cursed and literally "dirty". Have you ever wondered why she has an SM fetish? Especially masochism? She hates her bloodline so much that she gets pleasure from causing her suffering and physical torment. "That's how a fallen angel should be treated." There's little that can save them, and the longer her hatred continues, the harder it will be in the end. The only thing that can save her is true and unconditional love ... And even then, it could send her to the grave even faster if she's even a little dramatic.

Rias … She realized that she had screwed up big time. Akeno , her best friend, always brushed off the question of why she enjoyed self-torture or self-flagellation. One time, she found out that Akeno was listening to ASMR, in which she was insulted. And insulted in an extremely harsh manner. Rias brushed it off, since Akeno was a masochist, but if you look at it from a new angle…

Rias clearly screwed up.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Next up we have Kiba Yuuto. Rias , why didn't you take him to a psychologist? He's seriously obsessed with the idea of destroying all the holy swords, especially Excalibur . It got to the point where, in the story I know, he ignored your direct orders, and then went with the exorcists to look for Excalibur in order to break it later. And okay, he "only" ignored your direct order, sending you and your entire family, who sheltered him, for the sake of a momentary desire, but he wanted to destroy the holy sword. Do you realize what a shitty avalanche would have fallen on the demons if such information had reached the church? And this is after you said that "demons will not interfere with the search for Excalibur ." He's obsessed with this idea, and you don't treat him. Don't you believe me? Show him a picture of Excalibur and he'll go crazy.

Illogical Exhibitionist: Kiba wouldn't do something like that.

Rias couldn't believe it. How could her beloved servant do something like that? Especially Kiba , who considered himself her knight?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Believe it or not, his obsession with the holy swords is still a fact. You haven't been working on the mental side of your subordinates. I already mentioned Shirone . Gasper is simply afraid to go outside. He's afraid to be in the same room with ANY PEOPLE! He's even so afraid of you that he stops time! And it's not that hard to solve! Just ask your brother to assign a servant to stay by Gasper's side until he stops being afraid of him! He's afraid of people, and that's why he's so useless that you can't even use him in a Rating Game against Raiser ! If you can't ask your brother's servant, ask Grayfia or your father's servant. At least someone! All you need is to get him used to people! If that doesn't work, then train him like Pavlov's dog!

Rias realized that she had done nothing to solve Gasper's problem .

Illogical Exhibitionist:… I'll think about it.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Okay! I tried to sympathize with you, because I believe that a person should choose who they spend their life with, but I just can't understand you. You've shot yourself in the foot too many times for that. You went to school and pretended to be an ordinary girl instead of giving a damn and training like crazy. Your cousin Sairaorg , who doesn't have a tenth of your talent, could beat both you and Raiser today . He's the kind of person who actually cares about his mother, and so he trains until he's exhausted in order to earn money to support his mother's life. You? Well , I don't know, you don't put in that much effort, so I can only assume that you're okay with the way things are. You're just pretending to dislike Raiser in protest at the fact that your opinion wasn't taken into account. That's how your own parents, Raiser's parents, and Raiser himself see you . You're just a Tsundere !

Rias doesn't know why, but... She felt pathetic. If the previous words about her brother were just hurtful, causing anger, then these... They simply took away her motivation and self-esteem.

Illogical exhibitionist:…. Is it … That bad?

She sounded downright pathetic.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Yes, it's that bad. You said it yourself that the ratio of women to men is about 5 to 1. This means that harems among demons are not the norm, they are a necessity for increasing the population. As we already understood, noble demons do not actively help increase the population, they rather just play with humans, and therefore harems are the only way out. For demons, Rating Games are the only decent sport, for which they can pay a large sum of money to anyone. Rating Games are also a quick social elevator, and therefore quite popular. If a demon shows good results in the rating, then he himself is quite strong and good. You yourself said that Raiser did not show any disgusting qualities, did not pester you, did not touch you in the wrong places and treated you normally. So what is bad about him? Because he already has a harem? Well, that is not something strange, your father also has a harem, which is managed by your mother. You don't seem to be pouting about this, so why should you pout about Riser's harem ? He treats them well, they love him, if not as a man, then certainly as a king, just like your retinue loves you. So why do you despise Riser ? He's objectively good! He's strong, his children are highly likely to have the regeneration of the Phoenix clan, he's handsome, he doesn't treat you like a fuck hole, he's smart, he's successful. So what else do you want?

Illogical Exhibitionist: He only sees me as Rias of the Gremory clan , but I want my husband to see me as just Rias .

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: So, when did he see not Rias from the Gremory clan , but just Rias? You yourself push him away from you, you don't want to see him, you don't make contact, when will he see " Rias "? Should he start stalking you ? That will only anger you. You don't want to see him even out of respect for the Phenex family and the Gremory , who specifically coordinated all this. I'm generally surprised that Raiser didn't tell you to fuck off because of your actions. And judging by everything, you really didn't behave in the most pleasant way. And do you know how far this all came to?

Illogical exhibitionist:… I'm even a little embarrassed to ask….

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: It's good that you're ashamed. The thing is, a month before Raiser arrived , you met Hyodo. Issei . He had Boosted Gear , and that's why you relied on him so much. He was a real horny degenerate . You probably already knew that, since he's one of the academy's "perverted trio." I glanced at his actions, and he could already be jailed for sexual harassment and stalking. He doesn't see anything in women except boobs . Is it a secret to you that the white and red dragons are at odds with each other?

Illogical Exhibitionist: No secret.

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: So, at the Three Factions Summit , Azazel gives him a bracelet that will help him achieve Balance Breaker without having to sacrifice his own body. After White threatened to kill his parents, he activated Balance Breaker. But White beat him like a child. However, it was worth White using "Space Dividing" to prevent this from happening. Azazel explained that White divides the world in half, including your chest. Do you know what happened after that? Issei hated White so much that he was able to beat him up in one go. Beat him up so badly that White even wanted to use Juggernaut Drive. From this it follows that for him, your boobs mean more than the lives of his own parents! This is the idiot you fell in love with in the story! How is this idiot better? Raiser ?! But I'll tell you more, after losing the rating game against Raiser , Issei, with the help of your brother, got into the underworld, knocked down the doors when you were already at the altar, and like an idiot shouted "the president's virginity is mine!" And all the noble demons heard it, as well as ordinary demons on television! This moron disgraced you in front of all of hell! And if only it were you, these are only your problems, but he also disgraced the entire Gremory clan , because they can't raise a normal bride, and also Phoenix, because it turns out that Raiser was given a green hat. And not only that, but your brother got even more busy, forcing Raiser to fight Issei once again . Fight against Raiser Issei lost, but do you know how he won? That idiot gave his arm to the dragon, then took the holy cross, doused it all with holy water, strengthened it several times with his "strength", and then defeated Raiser with one blow. No normal devil or judge would award the use of such external devices, especially holy water, because it is too traumatic and generally vile. But Sirzechs counted it. Now imagine how angry and disgraced the Phoenix clan must have been? They are already in a neutral faction, this marriage should have made them loyal to the current Maou, so after this it will be a miracle if they do not hate Sirzechs , putting spokes in his wheels at the first opportunity. Their capital allows them to do this. After this, they will become loyal to the Bael King faction . And all this was for what? For the sake of the pervert protagonist and your absolutely immoral and idiotic desire to meet your "betrothed knight on a white horse", ignoring all the prerequisites for this. You got your appearance from your mother, your power of destruction you got from your mother, your status as an heiress you got from your father, your wealth you got from your ancestors, half of your servants you got because of the manipulations of your older relatives. In fact, " Gremory " is more from you than " Rias ". You have achieved almost nothing in your life on your own. Think about it carefully.

Illogical exhibitionist:… *Sob* …

Rias couldn't bear such humiliation.

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Esdeath was in seventh heaven. It would be hard to give her a better gift. The feeling of despair and humiliation in Rias's tears was so strong that Esdeath could even feel it through the chat.

She felt an orgasm again.

Gender Equality Advocate: Congratulations, Sigmund. You made a girl cry. Are you happy with that?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!: Honestly? Yes, I'm happy. If she changes at least something in her attitude to life and others, then these tears will not be shed in vain... Ciel , have you been waiting for me for a long time?

Tragic Alabama Love: Long Enough. Are We Going to the Beach ?

EXTRA EMOTIONAL DAMAGE !: Yes , come on . People , up meetings .

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